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In Response To European American Heritage Month

By Shan Bakke

HSU Pre-Med/Psychology major

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Published: Wednesday, October 21, 2009

Updated: Wednesday, October 21, 2009

Editor:

A letter in response to the  European American Heritage Month guest column on Oct. 14.

First, I’ll list my qualifications.  I’m of mixed heritage—a mutt as my Dad would say—being both European and American Indian ancestry, so I think I’m qualified to respond to Ms. Brown’s opinion in a thoughtful (I hope) manner.

I find it interesting that you pointed out that October is European American Heritage Month. Oddly enough, it wasn’t until I reached college that I realized that there was any other American history besides European American. Whose tax dollars were paying for the emphasis on that? Ours. As for the bashing, I’ll leave that to other writers as I’ve got more important things to worry about like how many classes are going to be offered in my major next semester.

You state that students hear only the negative things done by Europeans over the past few hundred years. Again, I have to disagree. Coming from the perspective of a 30-something male human, my education has been filled near to overflowing with all the great discoveries and wonders of European art, religion, and science. Indeed, one of my favorite times in history was the Renaissance, because of this explosion of human creativity. Many of my idols during my youth were men like Ben Franklin and Abraham Lincoln, both of whom I am related to by marriage in my family’s distant past. Now that I’m older, I still respect them, but now that respect is tempered with the knowledge that they were both products of their times.

As for the Confederate flag, I’ll keep my opinions on that to myself, except that I grew up wishing I had a red Dodge Charger. You get a gold star if you can guess what cultural reference that is...

Now when it comes to the topic of illegal immigration, I admit that I don’t know much about the Wa-gas to form an opinion yet, but they sound like an interesting group. Having said that, however, there were millions of people here pre-Columbus that were basically massacred—unfortunately by some people who just so happened share my European DNA.

In closing, I do understand your frustration, but try to imagine for a moment how you would feel as a non-European American student and were basically indoctrinated solely about European heritage. You wouldn’t feel any connection to these people. They don’t belong to your family so why should you have to learn about them aside from simple human curiosity?
 
 

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47 comments

Jeanne
Wed Nov 4 2009 14:04
Correction: Kennewick man is dated at 9,300 years.
Adama
Wed Nov 4 2009 12:23
This idea of being 'steeped in us - them feeling' is a part of what I'm talking about when I object to the Anti-White racism that exists on campus.

When professors or anyone else runs down the White race, it's against 'us' and no one else. Sure there are all kinds of problems in the world, but creating Anti-White racism and bigotry on the campus where I'm doing my best to get an education just doesn't work for me, and there's no reason I should have to put up with it, and I'm not going to.

I hear talk of 'respecting one another and ourselves' but having professors run down the White race is an ultimate act of disrespect. As I've said all along, no other race on campus has to put up with this and Whites don't have to put up with it either.

That's the bottom line and always has been in these discussions.

Jeanne
Wed Nov 4 2009 12:15
beige: "All this talk about white people being here before the Native Americans "Indians" is steeped in this us-and-them feeling. So what if there were more pale people in America before the Native Americans? Does that mean the White team got here first? Is that your point? Because if that's the case, you're making a tremendous statement about solidarity between cultures based on melanin (or lack thereof) while completely dismissing drastic differences between the tribal White folk who were supposedly here and the Europeans. There are Chinese monuments on the West coast of Central America that predate any evidence of Europeans being there-- why not jump behind their heritage and found a Mexican Chinese Day? Or are you only concerned with your team's points?"

beige, the fact of the matter is that so-called diversity is steeped in promoting "them vs. us," every other ethnic group vs. people of European descent. Read my comments to Shan Bakke right above your comment. Hopefully this will clarify where I stand in regards to some of the things you wrote in your comment.

The ancient Europeans who came to America (36,000-12,000 years ago) were Caucasoids and are ancestors of modern Europeans. The site where Kennewick man (dated 9,3000 years old) is located on the Columbia River in Washington state. This site was desecrated by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers under orders by President Bill Clinton.

There are basically two schools of thought in regards to incursions into the Americas: 1) these incursions happened all at once; 2) they happened at various times. The interesting thing is that DNA forensics can tell not only who the people were, but where they came from, when they came and when some of them mixed. More on this later.

Jeanne
Wed Nov 4 2009 11:53
Shan, I didn't know about Mr. Bodeker's interview but it appears he meant white people should discriminate on who they go with. Now, it appears the Indian nations would do their best to perpetuate their specific people and cultures, would they not? And Shan if we are all the "same," why is "multi-ethnicity" and "multi-culturalism" promoted?

None of us were here when the Trail of Tears happened. That doesn't mean I don't feel empathy towards the Cherokees or any other Native American tribes for what occurred to their people. It doesn't mean I don't want to see them perpetuate their numbers and their cultural identities. To the contrary, I want to see the Indian peoples thrive right along with people of European descent. I would like to see black and hispanic people successful in promoting their cultural identities, to be proud of their peoples, to move away from destructive behaviors.

Now, the thing promoted as "diversity" is going in the opposite direction of being good for anyone. Instead of fostering open and honest dialogue, debate, constructive criticism and healthy attitudes, it stifles all of the above through vindictive characterizations of people of European descent who stand up for their people. It promotes simplistic one-sided versions of events in order to collectively blame people of European descent for all the failures of every other ethnic group. We are also responsible for every wrong others do. Its primary aim is to deconstruct Western civilization. The fact that ignorance guided some in the past gives no room for the furtherance of it into the present.

Perhaps you have heard of Dr. David Yeagley of the Comanche Nation: "Liberals like to use Indians as a prick against America. Conservatives apparently wish Indians did not exist—at least not as “nations within a nation.” Indians simply wish to be Indians. Nationhood is our natural intuition, something we spilled blood for, and something the United States government promised to recognize, forever."

Dr. Yeagley wrote the following Op-Ed column: "The Hated White Race" June 16, 2009. BadEagle.com. Don't miss Rohan_de_Silva's comment about how his culture treats his own people, worse than European colonialism.

beige
Wed Nov 4 2009 11:43
All this talk about white people being here before the Native Americans "Indians" is steeped in this us-and-them feeling. So what if there were more pale people in America before the Native Americans? Does that mean the White team got here first? Is that your point? Because if that's the case, you're making a tremendous statement about solidarity between cultures based on melanin (or lack thereof) while completely dismissing drastic differences between the tribal White folk who were supposedly here and the Europeans. There are Chinese monuments on the West coast of Central America that predate any evidence of Europeans being there-- why not jump behind their heritage and found a Mexican Chinese Day? Or are you only concerned with your team's points?
Shan Bakke
Wed Nov 4 2009 11:41
And Rose, I do care about my race--
the HUMAN race in all of its multi-colored, crazy variety. We're really quite fascinating as a species when we get over ourselves and start respecting each other in spite of our 'differences'.

You see, if you take away that thin layer of tissue called skin, you'd find that we're all pretty much the same. If you don't believe me, just crack open a human biology textbook. The concept of 'race' is essentially a social construct used to divide people into categories to allow for ease of discrimination. Apparently it's easier for some people to get into the 'Us versus Them' mindset....tragic really.

Your name
Wed Nov 4 2009 09:50
and just for the record...
genocide is a NOUN
not a verb.
Shan Bakke
Wed Nov 4 2009 09:47
Sorry Adama, but as someone whose ancestors walked the Trail of Tears--that's the near complete genocide of the Cherokee Nation--I don't really take the allegation that whites are almost extinct very seriously. Give me UNBIASED scientific data and then I might be interested.
Adama
Wed Nov 4 2009 02:42
Shan, you need to look at the projected numbers of Whites in 2050. Our numbers are projected to be way down,
and there IS a concerted effort to genocide us. I've posted links to Professor Noel Ignatiev advocating exactly that.
Rose
Wed Nov 4 2009 02:10
That's fine Shan, I just wanted to set the record straight about the misquote. Maybe people who CARE about their race come-off as paranoid to those who don't care. I see the muti-cults and their rhetoric as paranoia in the first degree. I guess we Americas are just caring, passionate people, whatever the cause.
Shan Bakke
Wed Nov 4 2009 01:37
Rose,
That may be the case but I'm not about to take anyone who believes that the white race is going extinct all that seriously. It's one thing to be proud of your ancestry/heritage, but that rhetoric borders on the knife-edge of paranoia...
Of course, I'm not 'PURE' white, so I could really care less...
Rose
Wed Nov 4 2009 01:25
Shan, That comment you quoted by Craig Bodeker is misrepresented in your response...probably by accident. He was referring to sexual discrimination in regards to women and their choice of partners. He was saying that women need to be more discriminating when chosing a mate. He was responding to a question.
Here is the quote in its entirety:
RNVNA: All white countries face total destruction due to: massive non-white immigration, low white birth-rates due to homosexuality, non-white crimes against whites, abortion, racial mixing, etc. Could this be the end of the human white race worldwide? What do you think we should do about that?
CRAIG BODEKER: Educate people! Let white woman know that Sexual-Discrimination is not only OK, but in fact it’s NECESSARY TO OUR SURVIVAL AS A PEOPLE!
Contrary to PC doctrine, no one can be “half-white.”
Ask any subscriber to the theory that a mixed-race person is “half-white,” just how many white children is he or she capable of producing?
Of course the answer is zero.
That question itself should be an inportant component to any definition of “white,” but for some reason it’s not. Anywhere.
Shan Bakke
Tue Nov 3 2009 15:40
Jeanne, I hope you'll forgive me for not taking that last comment too seriously. You do realize that Craig Bodeker essentially supports the objectification of White women...
This is a quote taken directly from an interview he did for Romanian National Vanguard News Agency: International News for People of European Descent:
"Educate people! Let white woman know that Sexual-Discrimination is not only OK, but in fact it’s NECESSARY TO OUR SURVIVAL AS A PEOPLE!"

Being a mutt, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't give an airborne rodent's posterior on my opinion and that just breaks my heart. That was sarcasm by the way.

And for the record, having a discussion means sharing opinions and facts, and LISTENING to everyone else's viewpoints NOT spewing rhetoric and expecting everyone to listen to it if it were the gospel truth.

Cracker Jack Box
Fri Oct 30 2009 03:06
Dear Professor Wilson,

When you wrote the following " If you aren't just a simple white supremacist then your goal is to try to advance an anti-intellectual agenda by attacking professors in general-- guess what; we're not buying it because we have real world experience that directly contradicts your claims." Do you really think it was a fantastic idea to then write "Predictably, you'll respond by coming up with some impossible-to-track down anecdote about some imagined injustice"?

I mean really, you are supposed to have a Ph.D.

Jeanne
Thu Oct 29 2009 21:58
Sean, we are taking part in a discussion. Today, I watched the video suggested by Rose, "A Conversation About Race" by Craig Bodeker. This was excellently done. The charge that "racism is everywhere" is biased prejudice and psychological extortion.
Shan Bakke
Thu Oct 29 2009 03:43
Unfortunately, Jeanne, we all have biases. It's part of the human condition I think.

Were I twenty years younger, I'd be up in arms with the best of them. I'd like to think I've mellowed a bit with age and a little wisdom. It's one thing to be angry with discrimination though. It's another thing entirely to work yourself into a higher blood pressure bracket.

Can I suggest that, in place of arguing with them, think instead of ways to solve the problem.

Don't forget...
"(S)imple human curiosity."

Jeanne
Thu Oct 29 2009 02:20
Sean, I didn't mean to not answer your letter. I believe you want to know what I think of this part:

"In closing, I do understand your frustration, but try to imagine for a moment how you would feel as a non-European American student and were basically indoctrinated solely about European heritage. You wouldn’t feel any connection to these people. They don’t belong to your family so why should you have to learn about them aside from simple human curiosity?"

Sean, I really don't have an issue with what you said here at all. In fact, I do know what you are speaking of when talking about not having "any connection to these people." You are absolutely correct.

My issues are with the apparent and obvious biases and prejudices of things European exhibited by a clique of college professors and departmental heads. I have the same thing to say to them as I did to Jessica Whatcott. They know what I am referring to:

"The methodology used to undermine and deconstruct Western civilization is of an egregious nature. It is designed to diminish and denigrate people of European descent by portraying them always as the sole oppressors of all of humankind, as the ultimate enemies and villains of every other ethnic group, while branding anyone who stands for their European heritage as heretical racists and benefactors of the myth of white privilege who must recant of their evil ways!"

Shan Bakke
Wed Oct 28 2009 17:02
Sorry about that. Forgot to sign my name. Caffeine deprivation is setting in...
Your name
Wed Oct 28 2009 17:00
Adama, I don't recall him mentioning anything about recovery assistance for Certified Nurses Aides either. Believe me, at $10 per hour, I can use all the help I can get.

I did mention, if you recall correctly, that I'm also part White.

As for guilt, I believe Elinor Roosevelt said something along the lines that people can only intimidate you if you let them...
Just a thought.

Shan Bakke
Wed Oct 28 2009 16:55
Thanks for responding Jeanne. However your response was a bit off. Remember my perspective is slightly different being that of a non-traditional (read "old fart") college student. There was very little mention of victimization in those history classes I took. You could probably fill a single 8.5 X 11" notebook with all the information that I got on the subject from those classes. Keep in mind of course, that these classes were taught in the mid to late 1980's.
If anything, I'm a bit annoyed that I didn't hear anything about the role of WOMEN in history until the early 1990's much less the parts played by other racial/ethnic groups.
On a final note, I am NOT ashamed of my Euro-American heritage. I would, however, like to balance what I know of it with more information on my Cherokee/ Cheyenne ancestry. All that I know about that part of my past is on a piece of old paper filed back in Oklahoma--The Dawes rolls.






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